Living Trusts and QSSTs

One of the tax projects that we are working on involves a couple where the husband passed away in 2012 who owned a successful small business.  As we go through the process of trying to make sure all the appropriate steps were taken, my research leads me to potential issues related to S Corporations, Living Trusts and QSST elections.  This is a simple thought experiment but the overall issue is likely to be a potential problem as baby boomer’s age and we find their estates have ownership of S Corporation stock.

Husband (H) was the owner of all the shares and owned the shares prior to his marriage to wife (W).  The S Corporations shares were titled to the living trust of Husband.  The shares, per the will, specified that half of the shares were to go to a marital trust and the other half directly to W.  The marital trust stated that W could not sell the shares and they would all go directly to their 4 children at the time of her death.

Husband passed away in 2012.  The problem beings when the 2012 return reports the S Corporation shares on the joint return which reported H as deceased and W as surviving spouse.  The Company’s tax preparer changes the name and tax id number to W’s on the 1120-s K-1 in accordance to W’s statements and their understanding of the living trust document.  All shares are now in W’s name and reported on her 1040 return as the preparer knew about the living trust arrangement.

This creates lots of problems.  The will stated how the assets were to be divided and from the look of it, it wasn’t handled correctly.  Possibly, the shares transferred directly to W through the living trust would be valid, but what about the shares that were supposed to be transferred to the marital trust?  If the shares are owned by the marital trust, was a Qualified Subchapter S Trust (QSST) election filed with the IRS?  Can the marital trust even qualify as a QSST because of the successor beneficiaries listed in the will?

If the QSST is considered invalid or isn’t made, then the S election is terminated.  Without a valid S election, the income is no longer passed to the shareholders.  Income is first taxed at the corporate level and then the dividends – the S Corporation distributions – are taxed to the shareholder at time of receipt.

The tax consequences can be significant.  Let’s say that the Company made $1.0 Million in taxable income as an S Corporation.  It distributes all $1.0 Million to the shareholders.  The shareholders, W in this case, would pay about $390,000 in tax.  Without a valid S election, the Corporation ends up being taxed on that $1.0 Million, which costs about $350,000 and then W is taxed on the $1.0 Million in dividends, which costs her personally about $200,000.

$550,000 in taxes compared to $390,000.  And worse, the Company owed the tax but it may have distributed all its available cash, leaving W to wonder how she is going to pay the tax bill.  And if she used the remaining $610,000 to pay her living expenses, she can’t even loan the money back to the Company to pay its tax bill.

And remember, this is for the last 5 years, so almost $800,000 in additional taxes could be owed.

If you own S Corporation stock and have it titled to your living trust, you may want to talk with your estate planning attorney or CPA to make sure instructions are available to make sure something like this doesn’t happen.  Make sure your will aligns with your living trust and takes into consideration the fact that some assets have special rules about transfers to trusts.  And if you need the name of a practicing attorney or accountant who specializes in trusts and estates in Oregon or Washington, let me know and I will send you a few contacts you can discuss your concerns with.  Proper planning will make sure your wishes are carried out well and your beneficiaries receive what you planned for them.

Have a great weekend.

Understanding trusts

We have been involved with a very interesting project related to a trust.  I obviously won’t go into the project details but think the over-arching issues are worth trying to understand so hopefully others won’t run into this particular problem.

Hal and Wilma set up a living trust in 2005.  They have 2 biological children together and Hal has 2 children from a previous marriage and Wilma has one.  The kids are named Adam, Bob, Claire, Denise and Ed.  All are over the age of 21.

There are 3 primary assets in the living trust: The home worth $500,000, a joint investment account worth $500,00 and a business worth $5,000,000.  The business was started by Hal in 1984, prior to his marriage to Wilma.  The shares always remained in his name.  And, the business was treated as a Subchapter S Corporation.

Obviously H&W want to ensure that all the kids are taken care of.  To do this, Hal and Wilma set up a trust where, should Hal die first, Wilma would receive “income for life” from the business and upon her passing, the shares would be distributed to the kids.

Hal passes away in 2014.

The trouble begins almost immediately.

The two children from Hal’s first marriage immediately demand the shares be distributed to the final beneficiaries.  Their argument is that Wilma was entitled to only the income, not the actual ownership of the shares.  Naturally, Wilma didn’t agree but to ensure that the kids would feel like they in fact had “control”, Wilma had an LLC set up.  This LLC was set up with the kids owning a Class A interest and Wilma owning a Class B interest.  The Class B interest paid a Guaranteed return of 8% and did not allow for participation in any increase in value.

Sounds great right?  Wilma gets her $400,000 a year and the kids get control of the growth in value and any cash which may result from a sale of the business.

Bzzzz.  Thanks for playing.

Technically, the transfer of the shares in the business invalidated the S election since the trust was not a Qualified Subchaper S Trust (QSST).  We could probably get around that little headache but it is compounded by the subsequent transfer of the shares to an LLC.

An LLC is not a qualified owner of S Corporation interests.  So even if we could convince the IRS to ignore the QSST issue, the LLC issue killed everything.  And now we have to address 2014, 2015, 2016 and part of 2017 where the business issued distributions to Wilma but where the owner was the LLC.  Like I said, an interesting problem.

What should we take away from this?

  • Do not try to do tax and estate planning on your own.  It is easy to set up and then think you can update your documentation without talking with an expert.  Spend the money and time.  Especially if you own and operate businesses.
  • S Corporations are simple, except for their ownership structure.  Side deals with S Corporations can lead to trouble as it is easy to have nonqualified ownership or two classes of stock – all without meaning to.
  • If you are not going to gift S Corporation stock directly to your kids, then you need to plan and set up the proper trusts to protect the ownership.  To have one person receive the distributions while another gets the vote really requires the correct trust type.  This little detail gets overlooked sometimes and it can cause big problems.
  • If you own an operating business, it may be wiser to avoid titling it to a living trust.  And, if you own in jointly with a spouse, it may be better to issue a separate ownership interest to the spouse to avoid shares going in the wrong direction.
  • An LLC treated as a partnership is a great tool for planning and wealth transfer in many instances.  It can take the place of the Family Limited Partnership.  But somethings can’t be owned by an LLC.  And somethings don’t work well inside one, especially if there are guaranteed returns with insufficient cash being generated.

Thank you for the opportunity to share this little exercise.  If you have questions or thoughts, feel free to comment.  Have a great day.